If you have read any of my other blog posts, you will know that it drives me crazy to see junky genealogy stuff. You know what I'm talking about, silly dates, wrong parents, born in places that didn't exist, etc. So here is yet another post about an interesting man who has a good deal of bogus information floating around out there on the internet. This is the story of John Gage of Ipswich.
A lot of effort has gone into finding the ancestry of John Gage and at some point early on,erroneous information was published on his parentage. According to Robert Charles Anderson, author of "The Great Migration Begins", there is not enough concrete evidence to say definitively who John's parents were, however he concedes that with further research it could be possible to prove that a John Gage born in Suffolk, at the right time, and right place might be the man. This John was baptized on 21 April 1606, in Kersey, Suffolk, England. His parents were John and Jane (Lufkin) Gage, who lived in nearby Boxford. Boxford is only a few miles from Groton, Suffolk, and if you know your Massachusetts history, you will recall that this was the home of John Winthrop, first Governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. In fact, the Winthrop family opened a private boy's school in Boxford and frequently attended sermons at the Boxford church.
A lot of effort has gone into finding the ancestry of John Gage and at some point early on,
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John Gage gave his age in depositions once in 1659, and again in 1662. At the first deposition he gave his age as 50 and in 1662 he stated his age as 58. This would be in the ballpark for the John Gage's name that appears on the Covenant Roll for the 1st Church in Boston, dated 27 Aug 1630. His name was number 50 on the roll. He had to have sailed with the Winthrop Fleet in order to be that high on the roll. The Winthrop Fleet was a group of eleven sailing ships under the leadership of John Winthrop that carried approximately 700 Puritans plus livestock and provisions from England to New England over the summer of 1630. They made John a Freeman on 4 March 1633.
He remained in Boston until March 1633 when he joined with John Winthrop Jr. and about 10 other men to move to Agawam to start a new plantation. John Winthrop
John was a farmer, a carpenter and a surveyor for the town of Ipswich. He was also active in the militia, in 1639 he
John married twice, his first wife was Amy unknown, they married by 1638. They had at least 6 sons that lived to adulthood. Amy died in June 1658 and John Gage wasted no time in remarrying. His second wife was Sarah, the widow of Robert Keyes of Watertown and Newbury, they married in November 1658. I suppose as the father of 6 boys under the age of 20 he needed a woman to help raise them. John died March 24, 1672/73 in Bradford. See this link for more about John Gage.
Okay, so that seems all pretty straightforward, so what is the misinformation I spoke of at the beginning.
Above is a picture of Firle Place , the principal residence of the Gage Family, but they owned a lot of property in many counties in England. Below is Hengrave House.
Penelope Hervey |
In January
Sir William was a widower, his first wife was Susan, daughter of Sir Robert Jermyn of Rushbrook. The two families who become intertwined. Penelope's son
Record of the Marriage of John Gage and |
Henrietta Jermyn Gage |
Penelope wrote her will on 30 August 1656 and
Penelope lived long enough to see the restoration of the Monarchy. King Charles II returned to England in 1660.
John Gage and his wife had no living children. In his will he specifically leaves his Suffolk manors to his brother Henry and his son John Gage. John is also mention in his brother Henry's will. At the time he wrote his will he was living on York Street in St. James Square in London in a house he had from the Earl of St. Albans, Henry Jermyn. John's will
There you go, two men named John Gage, contemporaries, yet their lives are worlds apart. How anyone could confuse the two is beyond me.
Sources:
Gage, Arthur E., "Some Descendants of John Gage of Ipswich, Mass", New England Historic and Genealogical Register, Boston, MA, July 1908, pgs. 254-263
Rokewode, John Gage, Esquire, History and Antiquities of Suffolk,
The Visitations of Suffolk made by Hervey, Clarenceaux, 1561, Cooke, Clarenceaux, 1577, and Raven, Richmond herald, 1612, with notes and an appendix of additional Suffolk pedigrees, William Pollard, Exeter, 1882, pgs. 48-49.
Coppinger, Walter, Arthur, Manors of Suffolk, Notes on their history and devolution, London, 1905
Will of Penelope D'Arcy from the National Archives London
Will of John Gage from the National Archives London
The Great Migration Begins Robert Charles Anderson
Parish Records, St. Dunstan in the West, London
Young, Francis, " Surviving the Penal Laws in East Anglia, Academia, www. academia. edu/6580238/Surviving_the_Penal_Laws_in_East_Anglia
Young, Francis, " The Gages of Hengrave 1640-1767, Academia, www. academia. edu/5428899/The_Gages_of_Hengrave_1640-1767
See the blog of Dr. Francis Young, Gage family researcher here. Dr. Young has done extensive research on this family and had accessed the family papers. He had also written a book on the Gage family. Which can be viewed /purchased at amazon by clicking on the book cover.
I recently had an exchange, see comments below, with a woman who was utterly convinced that her ancestors were the Gage's of Firle. Despite all evidence to the contrary she clings to that belief, going so far as to completely rewrite the Gage family history. Some people will believe what they want and that's fine, but don't attack me or other researchers because we see things differently. Give me some fact based information and who knows, maybe you can change my mind.
6 comments:
Well said, familygirl.
I, too, find "junky genealogy stuff." Many people don't do simple math, find sources, or do any research on their own. Genealogy is time consuming.
Good job.
Thank you for your comment. It is hard work to get an accurate genealogy and is very time consuming, not to mention spending a few bucks, but it's worth it in the end. Happy Hunting to you. Family Girl
Thanks very much for your information. I am also related to Sergeant John Gage of Mass through my 3rd great grandmother Nany Phillips and Daniel Fletcher of Canada. A loyalist Thomas Phillips had married a Phoebe Bedford who was a descendant of Stephen Bedford and Naomi Gage. The Fletcher's of Canada were also from Mass and were decsendents of Roert Fletcher of Concord and his son Francis. This has cleared up many things and also gives me more information about my Puritan and Quaker roots from England to Canada. I would still like to find out who Sergeant John Gage's real father in Enganl was. Any info would help. Wes Fletcher, wfletch@embarqmail.com
Has anyone found out, definitively, the "real" father of John Gage?
John did not petition to stay in Ipswich; he petitioned for John Winthrop Jr. to stay in Ipswich.
According to Firle, this John Gage is the son of Sir John Gage. Somerby’s “contribution” to Gage ancestry actually contradicts the American Gage lineage, as noted in “A record of Pierce Gage and his descendants. With a brief account of his ancestry,” by G.N. Gage (East Washington, N.H., 1894):
“It has been thought by some, that all of the Gages of America sprang from a common ancestor, John Gage of Ipswich, Mass., who landed at Salem, Mass., June 12, 1630. This idea has been found to be erroneous.”
Gage relies on the family records of the first Gages in America, and Somerby’s work comes in later down the line, which is probably why it had no effect on my family history. As for the references in the “Visitations” and “Surveys,” John’s story changes over time. There is no evidence that Sir John’s second son ever married in England, there are no records that he ever owned any property in England, and the the will of John Gage, Esq of St. Andrew’s, Holburn belongs to a completely different John. In fact, Somerby may have been the source of this erroneous information in these later versions as they were published around his time.
John Gage was the only child not present at the “proving” of his father’s will in 1633, because he was already in America. Although there was an attempt to “pencil him in,” (https://www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/Gage-25 ), the official record does not include him (https://www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/Gage-25-1).
Lord Gage, in a letter of 1946 (https://www.wikitree.com/photo/png/Miller-64662-2) surmises that John’s abandonment of the Catholic faith would have been enough to get him written out; and would account for Penelope’s massive estate settling on her third son, unheard of if the second son had still been around. John had discarded the family religion, possibly through the influence of his grand father, Lord Darcy, at a time when his father was described in court filings as “a recusant convict” (Copy order of the commissioners for recusants’ revenues,” 13 Feb. 1628).
John would have lied about his age when he emigrated, so that he would be able to conduct business as soon as his feet hit the ground in Salem, which he did. Then he forgot the date he’d given when disposed decades later. He was literate, and he obviously had enough bank to get on the Arabella.
Also, according to family records, the matriarch of the Gage’s in America was named Anna. John and Anna started it all.
Hello, I think I am a descendant of John Gage. There is a Revolutionary War Cemetery, Wayne Maine with Gages from Barnstable MA
Are you aware of this cemetery and do you think the Gages who are buried here are a descendant of John Gage?
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2143157/memorial-search#srp-top
Or you can google Old Yard Cemetery Wayne, Maine.
Just thought I would share.
Kris
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